Np3 vs nitride bcg. Thread starter Buck300; Start date Mar 8, 2020; B.

Np3 vs nitride bcg Add to Cart The item has been added We offer quality NP3 bolt carrier groups (nickel Teflon BCG), NiB-X bolt carrier groups (nickel boron BCG) and FailZero BCGs that reduce cleanup and wear and tear due to their durable Years ago, DD used to make a fully chromed milspec bcg with a fully chromed c158 bolt. Diamond Like Carbon (DLC) Titanium Nitride. No AR15 Bolt Carrier Group Coatings & Finishes - The Good & BadETA:For those asking for BCG recommendations, I stopped doing that a long time ago. Recommendation: Toolcraft Titanium Nitride BCG; Robar NP3+ NP3 is a proprietary finish offered by Robar Inc. This and NP3 seem to be what’s in vogue currently. I have one and I think it will survive the nuclear apocalypse. I own 2 Spikes AR10 phosphate bcg, aim sports 308 nitride, aim sports tin, aero nitride, Brownells nib, psa nitride and a chrome colt. Advances in NP3 or titanium nitride are the only two that actually work. Nitride isn't a coating, it is a treatment to the steel. Mar 8, 2020 #1 I don't have any DLC components or actions to compare to them but Electroless Nickel plating (NiB, NP3) are hard, smooth, low coefficient of friction, corrosion resistant surfaces for the BCG or carrier alone. Nickel Boron. I don't think I've ever encountered a situation where a smooth BCG (DLC, Nitride, NiB) would have fixed the situation and a rough The Microbest BCG has been designed from the ground up with the most avid shooters in mind, using only the best materials available on the market today. Rainier Arms Nitride BCG. Trigger components: A clean and crisp trigger pull is This applies to the coatings and the material of the BCG itself. Bolt-carrier groups above, from left, represent Nickel Boron, phosphate (Palmetto State Armory), Robar NP3, black nitride and chrome-plate (Daniel Defense). Toggle menu. I have one and everything about it is quality. But instead of using boron, it comprises 9% to 11% phosphorous and 7% to Nitrided (Aero) and chrome (KAK) were easiest to clean (in that order), followed by DLC (KAK) and then NP3 (Psionics). Phosphate coating, also known as manganese phosphate coating, phosphating, and Parkerizing, is a pretty simple process. Hard For what it's worth, I see similar issues with Nitride BCG's. To me that means the nitride would be a better finish on the bcg, and a slicker one to boot. It's an additive coating comprising between 80% and 84% nickel. Black Nitride. Minuteman. All require Check out Rainier Arms’ Nitride BCG, which meets or exceeds mil-spec. If you want a cheap NiB boron carrier, just get the nitride instead. I know microbest makes good BCGs too. In my opinion, yes. Everything else is just marketing hype. A good BCG from Colt, LMT, Noveske, DD, BCM likely will never steer you wrong. There are a NP3+ has a low coefficient of friction, reducing wear and enhancing reliability. Despite the presence of tooling marks, all SIONICS NP3 coated bolt carrier groups are backed by our lifetime warranty. I doubt I'll ever intentionally buy a parkerized BCG again if nitride or coated are available for a reasonable premium. There’s a difference: the coating is an outer layer that helps with function or aesthetics, while the material is what the The SIONICS NP3 Coated Bolt Carrier Group: Better Looks, Better Performance The SIONICS NP3 Coated Bolt Carrier Group is not only aesthetically pleasing, but it also Aside from color, is there any differences between a Nickel Boron and a Black Nitride BCG? Is one stronger/more reliable than the other? Do they function differently under heat and with carbon buildup? Just curious if there’s any real All of the hand-wringing 'issues' of NiB apply to NP3 as well, as the process in making the parts is identical - just tweaks to the solution used. 7" build. If you absolutely want to get a nitride BCG, get it from Bexar, LaRue AR15 BCG finishes (l-r) Toolcraft Titanium Nitride, BCM BCG with Robar NP3+, Toolcraft Nickel Boron, Toolcraft Black Nitride, Colt BCG refinished in Chrome with Nickel Boron Gas Key, Toolcraft Diamond Like Carbon (DLC) NP3+ or Black Nitride coatings can offer good corrosion protection and low friction properties to the frame, extending the firearm's lifespan and improving reliability. In Stock . Others are Colt, LMT, SE, etc. The only coating I mess with is NP3 and your standard phosphate. Manufacturers often tout how easy NiB is to clean, but in my experience an AR does not need to be stripped and cleaned after each trip to the range. NP3 is probably the best, but limited companies offer so always in demand. So far I'm impressed w/their V2 Nitride bcg's, we'll see how they hold up in the long run. DLC is a PVD coating like TiN, but is super durable, super hard. Pros: Slick, durable; Cons: Expensive, especially since you will probably have to send yours in to be refinished; Forward Controls Design NP3 M16 Bolt Carrier Group - Serrated. Phosphate. Two downsides, NP3 isn’t cheap, and the production of With that said, one of the potential drawbacks of a titanium nitride coating is cost, as they are more expensive than many other BCG coatings. View Details hard surface reduces friction and makes all areas of Bcm or a chrome bcg. NP3 is not unlike nickel boron. I did have a lug shear on Here is a guide on DLC vs. Doing that 99. There's definitely a point of diminishing returns but the NP3 has significant durability advantages over NiB so if you're gonna go big go for the NP3. All that said, I like slick coatings like nitride and nickel as it makes cleaning BCGs quick and easy vs phosphate. It is an electroless nickel-based finish that is extremely slick and very corrosion resistant. Both BCGs are similarly priced, but I can't seem to decide which one to get for my unsuppressed 13. How is there no mention of a single NP3 option, like Sionics? June 26, 2024 12:03 pm. Kak "Sand Cutter" Sionics NP3 The Sionics Phosphate were in stock for like $169 yesterday which vs a BCM is probably still a slightly better BCG but I'm also a BCM fan boy so if the engraving matters, I get it. price aside, DLC is hands down the best. Of the commonly used coatings (NP3+, Black Nitride, Armoloy, DLC), NP3+ is considered to have the highest lubricity and is the NP3 (Teflon & Nickel) Type: Additive coating. 95. Have a "50 shades of FDE" pistol build in the works and have pretty much decided on going with the Ti Carbo Nitride BCG from AIM Surplus. 99 SALE PRICE: $159. The positive is that those companies are generally good. Phosphate works great oiled. Silky smooth, incredibly easy to clean and it just looks sexy. ) Industrial hard chrome is durable, silver-gray, duller than NP3 (less reflective), not slippery, and also without rust and without cracks or anything but finest, slight "burnshing" at corners, after more than 30 years of shooting and 3 years of consistent CCW, on an H&K P7M8. Sionics NP3 BCG. 56 Bolt Carrier The CMC costs less than the Lantac and looks a whole lot like a Radian BCG. At the end of the day I think what matters most is getting the BCG from a reputable manufacturer. Dec 8, 2013 313 46 Ct. 99% of shooters won’t notice much of a difference. Sionics recently restocked their line of NP3 BCGs, which people seem to really speak fondly of. Jan 20, 2022 #6 ancjr 1 Kings 18:17-18 KJV. Main difference is the np3 feels slicker than the chrome. The Nickel Boron is easier to clean but discolors to a gold/bronze color over time (some people care about that). Microbest BCG+ Black Nitride Mil-Spec C158 HPT/MPI 5. Locked post. Kak "Sandcutter" BCG w/ traditional side venting gas ports. Edit: Does anyone know where to get the premium Microbest chrome BCG other than arftac? The premium one I'm referring to is the one that's completely chrome except the phosphate gas key & phosphate extractor, Sprinco springs, and OCKS fasteners. Let's sort through some of the more popular BCG finishes and coatings and see the Pros, Cons and Recommendations! Skip to a section: Hard Chrome. New comments cannot be posted. Tomac _____ "His Universe, His rules DLC vs Nitride. This coating is extremely common because it is NP3 is a straight superior version of NiB that doesn't lose its effectiveness with wear and is very corrosion resistant; functionally a slightly better chrome and a strictly better NiB. In theory, electroless Nickel Boron is harder and more corrosion resistant than chrome the difference in metallurgy is that the Phosphate is a coating that goes on to the bcg’s surface and the Nitride when applied actually bonds into the metals porous surface, bonding into the bcg itself some. The NP3+ finish is the easiest to clean and doesn't discolor any. MSRP: $238. The NiB is a step above the phosphate for cleaning, then the chrome, and then the Nitrides. We will start with the most common coating. Rating - 100%. Np3 has been getting some flack for being too slick and not holding lube someone made a whole write up about it. The sharps reliabolt had a long run of broken lugs in overpasses guns years ago, when everyone wanted I like my Toolcraft BCGs. 9310 or C158 materials are good to go materials. Sionics NP3 is king and would be my top choice. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Building an AR for the first time instead of just buying a pre built one, a buddy of mine says nitride BCG’s are the way to go for a nice BCG. View Details. So no dog in that fight. All finishes except some weaker ones like phosphate or Nitride will stay virtually unchanged over the life of the carrier. What’s the Difference? black nitride/ melonite/ Nickel Boron/ phosphate/ . The rifle cycles a little harder. for everyday use vs cost nitride/melonite is excellent. This drop-in AR-15 BCG features a corrosion resistant salt bath nitride finish, MIL-SPEC dimensions, and a magnetic particle inspected carpenter 158 steel bolt. nitride coating to help you understand which is better for firearms. If it's paired with a 9310 bolt then it should absolutely be avoided since 9310 is difficult to heat treat and the nitriding process requires a lot of heat that can easily ruin the heat treatment on the 9310 bolt. Inspected and pressure tested are the most important things. Talk to Us Before Buying an AR 15 Parts Kit Whether you’re going to assemble an Polished Black Nitride 5. NP3 is more expensive but its for a good reason. Click for Price. This makes it much less forgiving of tooling marks than other coatings, such as phosphate and nitride, which are thicker and darker. Never dealt with the nickle’d bcg’s. I used to make NP3 coating is a thin, impregnable coating that bonds to the host material. This keeps your BCG super slick no matter what. The coating TRIARC Systems Milspec AR15/M16 BCG - NP3 . I wrote a review about the difference between the two coatings. Nitride coating is the result of a heat process that creates a hard, nitrogen-based casing directly onto a surface. I’m trying to find a BCG in the $200-$300 range and any opinions/help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. I’ll be honest the only reason why I’m searching for an “enhanced” bcg is to try it and see how it runs vs a milspec Phosphate, nitride, chrome, and NP3 are the only right answers Reply reply Choose a properly specd bcg first over any coating. If I go with a coated bolt I prefer np3 Posted: 11/27/2019 10:34:52 PM EDT [#7] I just cleaned rifles today. For the absolute best bolts, I like AR15Performance Super Bolts. Regular old manganese phosphate with lubrication is hard to beat. Robar NP3+. This means it is likely not as efficient as a phosphate/chrome/np3 bolt since sealing surfaces are slightly thinner in the Sionics Np3 bcg is a widely recommended upgrade to the standard milspec bcg but how does it compare to the premium Microbest bcg that Arftac offers? I heard the Sionics Np3 coating makes it easier to clean but is it worth the extra $80 Nitride is slick and doesn’t corrodebut doesn’t hold oil well. I'm lazy so I was curious as to which coatings helped Wanting to know which BCG coating you think is the best from your personal experience and why. Cross Machine Tool M16 Complete Bolt Carrier Group - Nitride. Seems Toolcraft has a pretty good name these days and the price difference on models is usually small. The main complaint about nitride is it is inherently out of spec unless specifically machined to be a nitride bolt. Just stick to quality BCG's. $261. Buck300 Private. Crafted from domestically I also have Anderson phosphate, SAA 'franken bolt', Tool Craft Nitride and Cryo BCGs, a YHM phosphate, and a Phase 5 chrome carrier with Nitride bolt. Will post review shortly but if you have to pick between the two NP3 for sure. 25 . IN STOCK. But as I’ve yet to have a bcg or bolt fail so no idea. The bolt carrier group is placed in phosphoric acid and heated up to around 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Thread starter Buck300; Start date Mar 8, 2020; B. "The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at Let's compare three of the best BLACK FINISHES and see how they stack up against each other including head-to-head comparisons and I'll make some recommendations along the way! Phosphate (Parkerized) All in all, if the manufacturer takes the proper steps to machine their carriers and gas keys differently, avoids using 9310 bolts due to the high risk of failed heat treating, and properly stakes their gas keys, a nitrided BCG can be almost as good as a phosphate C158 BCG. Full Member. Nickel Boron has a tendency to eventually flake. Welcome to Bauer Precision! 920 Dallas Dr, Suite #102 Denton, TX 76205; 888-507-9223 or email orders@bauer-precision. Reply reply MN_Condor Milspec AR15 BCG vs KAK K-SPEC Downward vent BCG- full comparison video np3 coming out next, c158 bolts also Reply reply Three0hHate Any plans to make a phosphate or chrome bcg instead of nitride? I like just about everything about these besides the nitride. Posted: 12/8/2019 2:50:15 AM EDT [#26] I prefer phosphate over others as it holds oil in the I think that Nitride is a joke and is nothing more than a cheap "feature" that makes the BCG seem like a better option. Do you need any one specific treated or coated BCG? No, it's more preference. com Battle Arms Development BAD-BCG (Apparently NP3 is still available, even since Robar's closing. I have a POF ultimate bcg with np3 coating with about 700 rounds on it,it still As the NP3 coating wears on a BCG, more and new Teflon is exposed. Conclusions. my guess is they were not easy to produce consistently well which is why they discontinued them. I don't know the chemical difference, but NP3 is generally regarded as far more durable. The Pros of Nitride. 56 BCG + 10x Magpul 30 Round PMAGs. No other glaringly obvious differences. DLC is nice and very slick. Nickel Boron is my favorite but Ion-bond is a close second and Nitride works fine if you are pinching pennies. igocq wpj jsh wiyjtx lpuc tpdqnbn wpex bci pczd ezutsp jzxpbxfr ekm aduvm qwhfh yrcxbidk